Posts by Life is to short 2

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Advanced Warning I - WT August 2016 "Study" articles re "Reaching Out"

by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

the brief outline for this item makes reference to the most recent wt on the subject of "reaching out" (august 2016 - pages 20 - 29) if you are a jehovah's witness and thinking about becoming a ministerial servant or elder, then please consider the following information prior to attending the kh for this week’s wt “study” and the week after.

first - if you hope to become an elder, in the uk you will also become a charitable trustee.

you will not be given any training for this part of your role.

Life is to short 2

As an elder's wife I can atest to what the opening post said, we never had a marriage. It was amazing how RUDE and down right spiteful some of the JW"s can be.

One time I had a work function that I needed my husband to attend with me, it could have cost me my job. Well this needy sister called the night before and told me that she needed my husband to come over and hold her hand the next day right at the time of my function. I really tried to be calm and nice and explanded that he was going to be busy but could come afterwards. She started to scream at me that she didn't give a care about me and that as an elder my husband had better be there the next day or else.

Now my husband had spent day's and day's and day's with this sister leaving me home alone, but I knew that if he found out she wanted him the next day he would still blow me off and go running to her. I unplugged the phones and didn't tell him she called.

Stuff like that happened all the time.

Also as anelder's wife here in the US I never knew the elder's are called independent agent's, which translated means that they can be sued and the powers to be in Bethel will not help them out. It would have been good to know as the state I live in if my husband's sued, it would totally affect me and I would lose everything.

Something that even a lot of elders don't even know.

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Front cover of the 2017 Watchtower - unbelievable!

by freddo in

jw
friends

study edition.

january 2017.

(can someone put up a link please?).

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So where are the people that they are bringing their life saving massage to?

I see no homes just wilderness, when I was first married we were assigned to where the need was great, all we did was drive and drive and drive. I could be out for 10 hour's and maybe get out ofthe car 3 or 4 times.

I hated it, it was beyond depressing and of course you could never say that you had to always say that it was a life saving work. One time when I dared to say it was totally crazy I wastotally rebuked and was told even if we didn't speak to anyone the Angles were watching and were happy we were doing the best we could? What? The Angles would have to thought we were idiot's.

We also made just $200.00 a month and spent well over 100.00 in car gas. It was so crazy, just this last Friday my husband started to brag about that time and how Jehovah blessed us, this time I didn't stay quite like I have in the past and I said that was totally crazy and even through Jehovah blessed my husband He didn't bless me as I got a ton of flack from the other JW's who belittled me for our lack of money. Thus I started working 35 hours a week plus put in 90 a month pioneering. Funny all of thoes who criticized me all, of a sudden their cars were not field service worthy and they would pile 5 to 6 people in our Honda Civic.

Sparky 1 as far as using the bathroom we sister's were supposed to pee behind a bush in plan view of the car group. I just couldn't do it so was again mocked for being a prude.

I hated every minute of it.

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Answer these 25 questions to find out if you are in a cult or high control group

by Faith after Deception in

1) do your studies or training in the group seem to be endless?.

2) did you have to give up things that you liked doing in order to be accepted into the group?

music, places you used to go, clothes, family life, celebrations, etc.).

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Very interesting, I answered yes to every question, at least for me that's the way it was.

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Today's Text: A Whole Lot Of Bull****!!!

by Divergent in

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friends

friday, september 30. one thing i have asked from jehovah—it is what i will look for—that i may dwell in the house of jehovah all the days of my life.—ps.

27:4.. as part of jehovah’s organization, what joy we now have in telling others about god’s promised new world!

(2 pet.

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Divergent

After 8 year's of not going to meetings and thinking I had fadded, they came at me out of the blue, this elder who was super defending pedophiles called mad. Totally blindsided me.

The child abouse problem still makes me see red and I will not back down, if they want to keep fighting its just really hard for me to back down.

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Today's Text: A Whole Lot Of Bull****!!!

by Divergent in

jw
friends

friday, september 30. one thing i have asked from jehovah—it is what i will look for—that i may dwell in the house of jehovah all the days of my life.—ps.

27:4.. as part of jehovah’s organization, what joy we now have in telling others about god’s promised new world!

(2 pet.

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I was just told by a CO and local elder that we are volunteers in service and that the CO that told me 10 years ago that I had no chose but to take child molesters DTD was wrong all I would have had to do was say NO!

Funny there is no where that it says this in print.

I love the saying if it's not in writing it didn't happen, which fact I am going to tell them both this weekend. The only thing I can find in writing is we must obey the elders no matter what!

I think they are starting to really hate me.

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Bible Contradictions regarding forgiveness & revenge...Not a trustworthy moral guide

by krismalone in

recent broadcast have gerrit losch talking about not holding a grudge and in septembers broadcast david splain talking about not demanding an apology after being wronged.

the subject of forgiveness and revenge is one of many examples of moral contradictions in the bible.

the book 1984 mentioned the terms double think and double speak.

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This is exactly where I am at now with the elders. They are DEAMDING THAT I FORGIVE THEM FOR ALLOWING CHILD MOLESTERS TO HOLD AND TAKE CARE OF CHILDREN PEROID!

They say they just made mistakes and that they did not really know way, way, way back in 07 and 08 that having registered sex offenders with children was not good. That they had to get clearer information from Bethel on how to handle it. But I am supposed to forgive them now and just move on even through their own magazines say victims of abuse just simply cannot do that as the October 8th 1993 Awake says.

I was just told I need to break bread with these elders even through they will not break bread with me at their homes, By forcing me to have them into my home to "break bread" with them it is showing the outside world that I accept their stupidity.

Also Ihave just been told that we are all just volunteers and can refuse a assignment in field serive. I was just told by a CO that if I get assigned to work with a pedophile I can say NO! Funny there is nothing in print that says this, I am just suppose to take the current CO'S word at this until the next CO changes it.

Yet every WT that has come out in the last 5 year's says we have to obey the ekders no matter what.

Doble speak at it's finest.

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According to one JW there can only be 1 of 3 reasons why you left.

by Bonsai in

i asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.

"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?

", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.

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I left for almost the same reason as Pistoff. It was totally over the Child abuse policy or I should say lack of care for children.

I have never done anything wrong that would remotely qualify for me to be df'ed through I have been threatened because I will not accept the elders love of pedophiles.

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Question about an elder and if I am crazy

by life is to short in

ok so i have a question.

i was a very, very true believer until i saw the child molesters in my hall and how that whole thing was handled.. my husband is older than i am and had been an elder for 12 when we married.

so fast forward to 06, we are in a hall where i thought all the elders were ok at the worst and great at the best.

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My name

That has been part of the problem, I honestly do not get it myself. Looking at it now I see my husband has not stood up for me. Like when the elder was following me around the hall, at first I thought I had to be imaging it myself, I mean who does that?

For most of our marriage I have had to stand on my own, the religion has always come first. But this goes beyond the religion this is just creepy and unnerving.

After reading all the posts I think that is a huge reason I have doubted myself because I have been on my own dealing with this.

I honestly do not know if our marriage will survive, I am just so tired, I wanted a husband not an elder, I wanted a partener in life.

A huge part of my craziness is having no support, I have no family, no siblings, cousins, no one. No children, I am totally all alone in the world. I was raised in the JW closed world. I have no one to bounce off when craziness happens. And of course the JW's, the elders tell me I am crazy.

I love this sight, I cannot thank Simon enough, it's trully all I have. I have met Flipper, and Mrs. Flipper they have been a life savor to me, as has OTWO and others.

Thank you againeveryone for your repiles, they mean a lot.

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"Coping with Shunning" by Barbara Anderson

by AndersonsInfo in

http://watchtowerdocuments.org/coping-with-shunning/.

by barbara anderson.

when my husband and i left the religion of jehovah’s witnesses (jws), we, like countless others, lost family members and friends because of the witnesses shunning doctrine.

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I remember that magazine and that letter. I was working with his wife at 90 Sands when that came out.

It breaks my heart to think of how he has shunned you. One day he will totally regret it.

There was a stupid sister where I live that shunned her dad for year's because he couldn't stop smoking. He had gotten baptized in the late 60's when you could smoke, and they DF'ED him when they changed the rules. He dided suddenly after she had been shunning him for about 30 year's.

I honestly do not know how she can live with herself, as he truly loved her.

It is all just so sad.

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Moving to warwick: 1 Billion dollars in profits so far.

by StephaneLaliberte in

at one point, the witnesses held 4.5 million square feet over 30 buildings.

they’re down to nine buildings, having made about $1.25 billion on staggered sales since 2004, according to the co.. http://therealdeal.com/2016/09/22/the-secret-to-jehovahs-witnesses-real-estate-success-maintenance-and-patience/.

warwick is 1.6 million square-foot.

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Funny but my die hard JW husband even said that one reason they might have felt the need to move is because of how horrible they have treated the victims of their injustices especially the sexuality abused ones.

This way they are tucked away and it would be a lot harder for some off balanced victim to take them out.

It is strangely sad for me to hear my husband say that because when we were serving where the need was great a off balanced JW in the hall threanted to kill us and some person in the service department at Bethel (who you never get told their name God forbid)told my husband that no matter what we could not go to the police.

I begged and pleaded with my husband but he said he had to obey Bethel. I would go by myself to the police now but at that time I was a stupid submission house plant of a wife.

I wonder if they have had threats and that's one reason for the move.